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machetteman
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Post subject: phantom build Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:06 am |
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machetteman
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:22 pm |
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i hope to start the build very soon just waiting on insurance payment which should bne any time now. has any one fitted rails into a hull before as this is the first thing i need to do, any idea where would the best place too get the materials for this. "two women haveing a pee" not looked at it that why before i am hopeing to get the boat ready late spring early summer (sooner the better) but this will be down too family ties and cash flow regards phil
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brodjack
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:24 pm |
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Is it fibre glass Phil? should be good oval racer.
If it 'aint fast it 'aint fun
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machetteman
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:23 pm |
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hi brod yes the hull is made from fibre glass its nice and thick to, so should be stronge. even with nothing in the hull its a heavy boat too.
yes i was impressed with the hull when i saw it racing down at branston in the omra race, there a few running in the c class and a few in the d class to....
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:28 pm |
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An inline would be awesome but alot of poke though. can you post some pics of the insides?
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machetteman
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:25 pm |
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yea im thinking of saving me pennies up thro the year and putting a inline in next year (buying to zens then getting them modded too) and putting the the single zen in my puma hull i have kick around in cupboard. here are some pic's of in side the hull   regards phil
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brodjack
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:26 am |
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Looks to be a ton of room for an inline. Think this is the way to go with it,excess power is good.lol 2 motors and a joiner kit,even stock zens would be quick,pipes and bits can be had cheap from HOR,might be worth saving a bit longer and doing it properly first build. see you sunday.
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:52 pm |
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good news guys me money has arrived so it build on now the size of hatch opening is 770/280 so there plenty of room for a inline there brod, looking at what i have on buget it loook like can do a inline build, i know where i can get the zens from but the only place i know for the coupler is dave at prestwich is there any where else i can get 1 from?.... will keep the zens stock at first then get them modded at a later date. hopeing to order this zens some time this week regards phil ps where the best place to get the fibre glass to fit the rails ?????????
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brodjack
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:01 pm |
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Ady is going to do my new inline mono stringers for me.I'm not clued at all with glassing,perhaps he will chime in and advise? I'll send you a PM regarding the inline coupler. Glad your going the inline way,after running ours its kinda hard to go back to singles again. Stock motors will still be AWESOME power in your hull 
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machetteman
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:16 pm |
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ok cheers brod for the info
defo getting keen now too start the build
when ordering fromhor did you get the parts all to gether or in batches as i am looking to ordering 6 items from him and with al this worried about getting hit with customs
regards phil
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:39 pm |
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If you can hang on for a few more days,Ady and me are putting an order in from HOR,with yours included we can get real good discount. make a bit of a list of what you intend to use and buy and let me know through PM's. Looking forward to 3 big mono inlines racing now,they are in another league. Eddie has one in the pipeline too i think? MHZ Skater.
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riptigary
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:05 pm |
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hi phil i can get you the gear you need to put your rails in not as hard as you think lol gaz 
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:12 pm |
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ok brod ill sort a list for you
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:14 pm |
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ok thanks gaz i have the ply for the rails i just need the gear too fit them and some guide lines on how too do it
regards phil
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:26 pm |
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are adys and brods the same for the twin setup gaz 
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:28 pm |
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:40 pm |
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riptigary wrote: sorry 5 inch apart yes as the mounts are too fit 5" rails regards phil
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:06 pm |
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You really want rubber mount couplers 25mm diameter and about 20mm depth for inlines,they have to be stronger than single motor ones.Obvious reasons.
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:24 pm |
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machetteman wrote: riptigary wrote: sorry 5 inch apart yes as the mounts are too fit 5" rails regards phil update on rails gaz they need too be 6" apart regards phil
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:14 am |
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think there 5 phil best way to do it i think is when you get the motor .mount it to the stingers but you will need to work out where the motor is going to sit in the hull first when you got that then place the stringers in the hull use a bit of hotmelt glue to hold them cut a couple of 5 inch spacers to hold the stringers apart remove the motor then you can mat them in works for me. i can give you the resin and tissue mat and the catalist you need only got white resin tho . ask ady if his mate have the mesurment for the motor in the hull gaz 
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:44 pm |
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Good advise gaz,width depends on mounts and thickness of rubbers used. Your a long way off yet Phil so dont worry at this stage. Just dont use the cheap small rubbers that are supplied with some mounts for an inline. ie. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aluminum-engine-m ... 439a7ae481get some wide diameter ones
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:00 pm |
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riptigary wrote: think there 5 phil best way to do it i think is when you get the motor .mount it to the stingers but you will need to work out where the motor is going to sit in the hull first when you got that then place the stringers in the hull use a bit of hotmelt glue to hold them cut a couple of 5 inch spacers to hold the stringers apart remove the motor then you can mat them in works for me. i can give you the resin and tissue mat and the catalist you need only got white resin tho . ask ady if his mate have the mesurment for the motor in the hull gaz  ok thanks gaz ill leave fitting the rails till i get the motors and the mounts thanks for the advise on fitting the rails too gaz, let me know when you have the materails and i could pick them up as i live in fleetwood gaz, and the white resin will be fine as the inside is whitish too.
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:03 pm |
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brodjack wrote: Good advise gaz,width depends on mounts and thickness of rubbers used. Your a long way off yet Phil so dont worry at this stage. Just dont use the cheap small rubbers that are supplied with some mounts for an inline. ie. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aluminum-engine-m ... 439a7ae481get some wide diameter ones thanks for advice on the rubbers brod i have found some at the size you have said they are from dave marles ill have another lok later for them. cheers phil
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:03 pm |
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have you got the inline joining kit yet phil?
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Post subject: Re: phantom build Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:40 pm |
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brodjack wrote: have you got the inline joining kit yet phil? hi brod yea got it the other week sitting here in the box with me mounts and rudder
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